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JMC | Philosophy - Posted on 2006-10-14 13:31:07
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Philosophy - NuTang Philosophical Philosophers Minds Meet

Due to the fact that there is an ever-growing post and Writings at NuTang of immense cogitations:

May this NuTang Forum serve as a place for all us NuTang Philosophers to philosophize in further detail the analysises and expressions of our intellect.

The idea for this Philosophy NuTang Forum came in collaboration with hmdaswani and myself. Together, we would like to encourage and welcome all input, be you of Philosophical Minds or merely opinionated.

In your reply, Please link the Readers to your reading room if you have one, so we may also enjoy your Writings.

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JMC | middaymoon you are a Philosopher in the making! - Posted on 2006-10-27 11:32:19
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I'm glad you didn't have to read in front of the class either middaymoon! Just because that can be nerve wrecking on the emotions! However; as for your details, such was far from confusing. The details are what seperates your writing from what you are use to just writing or reading. Hence, expanding your mind. You should try this type of writing more often! Such writings with details explains science, etc. Others have gone on to write tech manuals for the military. Talk about details! While others learn from those very details in a tech manual. There are all kinds of writng and reading, for many purposes. Keep the pencil sharp and the pen full of ink middaymoon!

middaymoon | Untitled - Posted on 2006-10-27 19:12:43
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XD! thanks again!

Silver-dot- | Untitled - Posted on 2006-10-28 01:57:39
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I hate public-speaking. Or at least it's nerve-racking (something I'm not unfamiliar with--being a dancer and all) and I don't like that. My mind spins and I cannot for the life of me get my thoughts in perfect un-messy order.

Anyway...middaymoon: It doesn't have to be emotionless! My piece is a perfect example. It's definitely far from it. Though very...unorganized? XP

hmdaswani | Untitled - Posted on 2006-10-28 11:51:55
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I've gotten very used to public speaking and humiliation... Very used to it you'd be surprised... I used to give speeches in public during my college days, got grilled so bad people think the whole room smells like Kenny Rogers... I've had hits and misses, but end of the day, you know that when you're done, it's back to normal...

Don't sweat it, you will need sessions on the podium to get used to it...

I actually danced the YMCA in front of the entire college, Played terroristic roles, and had to be topless (no prob as I'm a guy) in a play with a body not to be really proud of... Once you've done the worst, everything else in the world is a piece of cake, and you can only get better too :)

hmdaswani | Untitled - Posted on 2006-10-28 11:53:00
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Anyway, I want to invite you guys to view my blog and reading room to comment on my philosophical articles... Most of the articles are on Philosophy anyway, even the short stories...

hmdaswani | From my Blog - Posted on 2006-10-29 06:12:57
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Concept on accident and theory on Déjà vu

In the discussion of the following, I would like to bring in several key concepts that would apply on these ideas. Firstly, the idea of chance means lack of knowledge on variables, control, and other influences on an expected item. To elaborate on this, there is no such thing as a 50/50 in a coin toss. When the coin is on the hand with heads facing up, a full spin will make it heads again, a half spin would make it tails. Spinning would depend on how strong was the effort used to push the coin into the air, how strong was the air, which was the heavier side, and other such factors. Without knowledge of this, we don’t know what to expect. It is through knowledge that we know the effect, the outcome. In some scenarios, we do know someone so well that we know what makes them tick, what makes them happy, or sad. If we are very good we will know what will be the answer or response of that person when a statement is said. But it would be difficult to do so, since we are not with that person all the time, he saw things that would influence him to decide otherwise from what we know. His answer is expected, if we know what factors are involved in what he will say.

Bringing the concept of free will, and the concept described above, how is it possible that accidents don’t happen by chance? Things do happen as predicted, things happen because of oversight and negligence in one of the many factors. For example, A man comes to a Religious channel praising God for saving him from being run-over by a truck. In this situation, he slipped from a banana peel and started darting through the road, but fell on the middle of the road, between the tires of the truck. It does sound all so coincidencial but we didn’t look at the fact that the person was eating a banana 20 minutes ago, has a history of bad shots and bad personal and overall hygiene, tries to shoot the banana peel but misses, and leaves it lying on the floor. The person who was walking was on the phone, distracted by the conversation that he didn’t see the banana peel on the floor. The person slips, but with the angle of the road and the person’s height/weight, the person falls on a certain distance on the road. The truck was actually a container truck who was on a certain lane out of law and habit, this whole string of “coincidences” are controls needed to ensure the idiot’s safety. But aside from this, truck accidents would typically happen due to negligence to change tires, or check on brake pads and such. It is no accident when a certain situation happens frequently, it is negligence. God does nothing of the sort to intervene to some people and let others alone, he would be considered unfair. He has to let all things go and watch from above, let karmas run and let things pay themselves on their own. The story was written a long long time ago, it is a mathematical equation of billiard balls hitting each other when and where and how that is running. It is all pre-programmed. And that is the most amazing thing, that we all have some strange story happening to us as part of the whole mathematical equation God installed in this system we call Earth.

On the system of Déjà vu, for those who have experienced it, it feels extremely supernatural. But what if we already had knowledge of the controls and variables, and the whole math, but not on the conscious side? The whole certain part of our unconscious, which runs the basic processing we use when we decide, does the math for predictions. It knows the controls and the situations; it probably just brought it up. At some point it may seem extraordinary, but how much of our minds do we really know? That is, up to now, something we are all trying to discover. The best way to discover this is through replication, and this is where the computer comes in.

Computers replicate our way of deciding things, but it is millenniums behind our brains (for others, maybe years only) but computers don’t learn things on their own, we have to tell it what to learn. It still does not have the whole mathematical aspect that we all know, and cannot recognize items as well as we do. Computers are also not yet programmed to prioritize perpetuity and survival, something that each and every man has in him. But with this realization, we will understand better that we are unconsciously doing math in our heads every second of the day. This math does things we don’t really understand. This math knows what will happen based on cause and effect, just as how some good billiard players can do elaborate stunts on the table and know which ball will hit what. We have to be open that we haven’t discovered this yet, and that much of the world has not been discovered yet. We still have millenniums worth of time needed to understand things better.

hmdaswani | Hey there - Posted on 2006-11-03 07:52:26
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Let's get those philosophical juices flowin'... Come and debate, fight, conquer... Or just yap around... It would be nice to see everyone's thoughts in life

middaymoon | Untitled - Posted on 2006-11-03 17:46:16
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has anyone heard about mirror neurons? they're special neurons in certain animals and humans that fire not only when a person does something, but also when that person perceives that thing being done, through sight, hearing, touch, w/e.

in short, everytime you notice someone doing something, you go through the motions of it in your head, sometimes without realizing it. this explain why newborns mimic you, why yawns are contagious, and strong emotions seem to bleed into spectators.

ryan444123 | Untitled - Posted on 2006-11-03 17:48:00
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Great and cool and intresting idea JMC. :D

JMC | Thanks ryan444123, however! - Posted on 2006-11-04 01:23:31
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I can't take all the credit! hmdaswani has been with this thread since the start! And more so now since I have been down with Migraines and haven't been able to input.

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