So is there anything we can do as a community to at least stabilize the nutang server? What exactly is the problem here?
Everytime the server is down, there's no detailed report on what happened, which makes us all blind sheeps waiting to graze on shit.
No offense but IMHO, if dave is on and off frequently then it's only right if he passes the baton to someone else who can fix technical errors ASAP, if not appoint someone and give him the admin power.
I believe that the community previously had a discussion on the potential ways to attract new members, with regards to that, stabilizing the server is definitely the minimum we can and should do.
New features and other stuff comes after that.
Alternatively, if there's anything I can do to help out, please approach me, and with my best of efforts I WILL help out.
I am more than happy to help and make Nutang a stronger and bigger community actually, but first I need to know what exactly is the source of problem we are facing. As members for years already, we should all be allowed to know.

And I am fully aware that there have been complains and mini arguments sparking around the community with regards to this.
I won't say who's right or wrong but answers like "if you don't like it here then leave by all means" is a no no.
There are people that have been blogging here for like years, you can't just expect them to abandon their blog and start afresh.
Instead we should all face the problem instead of avoiding it.
I know the community is small and all but there is something we can and should do.

First question is, why is there frequent breakdowns in the server. Is it due to money or simply just the host problem? Is there anything we can do to help?

Second question, I have friends with popularity points not moving at all. What is the source of this problem? What can we do to help?

Thank you for reading this.

why so serious?
take a chill pill. Bye im off.

yo iki,

since when did i bash dave in my first post?
after reading it for like 500times, i still honestly deem it to be a string of constructive words.
is there a hidden message in my post that I, the writer myself, is not aware off?
if there is, please quote and enlighten me for i am dumb.

as for why did i bash nuttz, it's simply because i am irritated by her excessive degree of defending "fragile" dave.
i get irritated when people try too hard being nice.
the world needs to be heavily sprinkled by some "asshole" powder at times. people can be way tooooo nice.

and yeah, i am childish. it's just too tiring to be mature.

best regards.

GM,

Why so rude, inunderstanding, immature, and cliche?

Hrm? The best you can do is attack, instigate, quote bad movies and then leave? Not even some explanation as to why you may agree?

I fully understand the initial points made by both L and Nuttz. I would love to know the cause of the no popularity/revenue problem, as it also affects me.

However, the behavior of both you and L is not cool and uncalled for.

L,
As I've said, I understand your thoughts on perhaps introducing additional people to be around to fix problems. If I'm not mistaken, there have been several attempts/offers by people to do such things. I was mostly agreeing that if it's not what dave wants to do, then it's not what he wants to do, for whatever reason.

Also, NuTang != 4chan. There is never a need for that sort of behavior.

Thank you iki for your support.

I think it is best that we do not enter into an argument with them, it would be a waste of time.

We shall wait for dave to speak.

Oh, I don't plan to enter anything past what I've said to them.

It's one thing to list your gripes constructively, another to defend them with such behavior.

yo iki,

i liek mudkipz lulz!!11one
it's just that whatever nuttz said offended me alot, i would probably like it more if someone called my mum a whore lol.
yes, i get pissed off in the weirdest ways. normally when someone tries to be nice or politically correct.
so me being "strangely" pissed off, i didn't see a need to write some 100words radical post explaining on shit.
a simple fuck you might do the job better so TA DA! :) you have it.

best regards

I do not agree with what they said either but they are not going take it with a pinch of salt and will say things which will ultimately provoke you like what he did to me, again. Which is why I think it is a waste of time to say anything to them.

hi nuttz,

uh? pardon me but what is there to disagree/agree about?

here's my version of the summarised story.

me: hi people, so we all know nutang is fucked up now and then, is there anything we can do about it? is it possible for dave to give admin power to someone?

you: ZOMFG!!! j00 stop flameeing dave!! poot j00self iN his shooes!!!11

me: what? aren't you being a little sensitive?

you: n00 i n0rt sensaative !! j00 r teh succk!!11 j00 offensive to dave!

me: *bored* fuck you.

err? So where's the agreeing part? Did i miss it?

best regards.

This thread bores me.

It seems like nothing good is coming out of it. Everyone needs to stop stoking the fire and focus on what the post was originally supposed to be about: ideas. There is no need to keep this ongoing he-said-she-said bullshit.

And if you've got nothing nice to say, (or aren't "community obsessed person",) just keep to yourself, OK? I don't think it's so offensive to dave, it's just the truth. But L, you need to learn to play nice. Just saying. I like what you're trying to do but you're just going to end up alienating everybody like that.

I personally think dave should at least share some of the admin power with someone else, but it's really his choice.